Art of Magic Podcast

Magical Thinking

With Elliott Terral

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Episode 79

David Williamson

Episode 79: David Williamson sits down with Elliott to discuss his humble beginnings in Ohio, the blue-collar showbusiness path he was drawn to, his thoughts on scripting and being present in the r...

Episode 78

Lance Pierce

Episode 78: Lance Pierce sits down with Elliott at PebblePalooza to discuss details and subtlety when crafting routines, how your magic will change as you grow, and Lance shares some amazing storie...

Episode 77

Asi Wind

Episode 77: Asi Wind sits down with Elliott to discuss art, magic, and how those can come together. Asi shares thoughts on his creative process, working with David Blaine for television, and how t...

Episode 76

Jeanette Andrews

Episode 76: Jeanette Andrews is a magician and artist who specializes in creating interactive sensory illusions through conjuring, and in the episode she shares about her creative process, her ins...

Episode 75

Simon Aronson

Episode 75: Simon Aronson has written extensively about close-up card magic. You may not know that he has been doing the most baffling two-person mentalism act Elliott has ever seen for almost 50 y...

Episode 74

Rico De La Vega

Episode 74: Rico De La Vega creates and consults for the biggest names on stage and television. In the episode, Rico shares his thoughts on creativity in a collaborative environment, the power of ...

Episode 73

Mike Caveney

Episode 73: Mike Caveney shares the history of Egyptian Hall Museum, some fo the famed conjurors of the Golden Age of Magic, and himself in this wonderful episode. Mike and Elliott discuss charact...

Episode 72

John Wilson

Episode 72: John Wilson sits down to discuss his unorthodox path in magic, his relatively recent and consuming passion for the Tarot, and his ideas regarding making intimate, memorable, meaningful...

Episode 71

Lisa de la Vega

Episode 71: Magician and magic consultant, Lisa de la Vega, sits down with Elliott to discuss performing with her brother Rico as Junior members at the Magic Castle, her magic teacher’s wisdom, he...

Episode 70

Richard Turner

Episode 70: Expert card mechanic, Richard Turner, sits down with Elliott to chat about DEALTmovie.com, getting started as a card mechanic, studying card table artifice at the Magic Castle, his per...

Episode 69

Jim Krenz

Episode 69: Jim Krenz is a performer and creator who has travelled the world fooling everyone in his path. In the episode, you’ll hear us discuss a wealth of topics including: getting started in C...

Episode 68

Max Maven

Episode 68: The illustrious and incomparable Max Maven joins Elliott to discuss popcorn magic, professional wrestling, magic and meaning, how the internet and television have changed magic for bet...

Episode 67

Johnny Thompson

Episode 67: Johnny Thompson, a true living legend, sits down with Elliott to discuss the state of magic, how the Mob made Vegas great, performing a silent club act with his wife as Tomsoni & Co...

Episode 66

John Archer

Episode 66: John Archer, award winning comedy magician, writer, and actor, sits down with Elliott to discuss comedy and magic, collaboration, magic on television, and more. John is lovely and hilar...

Episode 65

Anthony Owen

Episode 65: Anthony Owen is an award winning television producer and executive in the UK, and he’s done thousands of hours of work on magic for television: Derren Brown, Paul Wilson, James Went, Jo...

Episode 64

Shawn Eric

Episode 64: Shawn Eric sits down with Elliott to share stories about Cellini, Johnny Fox, Tom Frank, and more. Shawn has been performing for over 30 years, and we talk about busking, travel, passio...

Episode 63

Jamy Ian Swiss

Episode 63: Jamy Ian Swiss, renowned magical author, thinker, historian, and teacher, sits down with Elliott to discuss the current magic climate, share stories about coming up in New York, sitting...

Episode 62

Chris Korn

Episode 62: Chris Korn, world traveling magician and raconteur, sits down to share stories of his performing career, insight into your performing context, growing up in the St. Louis magic communit...

Episode 61

Ben Seidman

Episode 61: Ben Seidman, a hilarious comedy magician, sits down with Elliott to discuss writing jokes, cruise ship performances, magic on television, hecklers, mean YouTube comments, and more! Choc...

Episode 60

Derek Hughes*

Episode 60: Derek Hughes, the Stand Up Magician, sits down with Elliott after a week in the Palace of Mystery at the Magic Castle. In this episode they discuss triumphs and failures, open mics, Ame...

Episode 59

Michael Stern

Episode 59: Michael “My Turn” Stern sits down with Elliott to chat about HypePlayingCards.com, Cardistry-Con 2017, being a member of the Magic Castle Junior Program, and his passion for skateboardi...

Episode 58

Scot Nery

Episode 58: Scot Nery, host of Boobie Trap in Hollywood and world renowned juggler, comedian, and showman, sits down with Elliott to chat variety shows, comedy, performance theory, and more. Enjoy!...

Episode 57

Pop Haydn

Episode 57: Pop Haydn, 7 time “Performer of the Year” for the Academy of Magical Arts and a certifiable genius, sits down with Elliott to discuss magic and story, character development and backstor...

Episode 56

Kent Jenkins

Episode 56: Kent Jenkins, "Snubby J" on YouTube, chats with Elliott about creativity, personal growth, performing authentically, and professional evolution. This is a fun and funny episode where El...

Episode 55

Michael Borys

Episode 55: Michael Borys, creator of Elliott's most magical experience and a phenomenal interactive show, The 49 Boxes, sits down to chat about the magic world, puzzles, alternate and augmented re...

Episode 54

Tony Cabral

Episode 54: Tony Cabral, contributor to MUM, expert sleight-of-hand magician, and entertainment behind the bar at Legal's Test Kitchen in Boston, sits down with Elliott to discuss gambling themed m...

Episode 53

Franco Pascali

Episode 53: Franco Pascali joins Elliott to talk about style, imposter syndrome, putting together new material, and the list of things magician's shouldn't do. Enjoy!Let us know what you think of t...

Episode 52

Brad Henderson

Episode 52: Brad Henderson, magician, creator, and consultant from Austin, Texas, sits down to discuss the feeling of magic, audience direction and management, taking magic criticism, and more! Bra...

Episode 51

James Went

Episode 51: James Went, magic consultant, BAFTA winning television performer, professional musician, and Welshman, sits down with Elliott to talk about putting together an act for the Magic Castle ...

Episode 50

Frank Olivier

Episode 50: Frank Olivier, renowned variety performance artist chats with Elliott about Twisted Cabaret, his phenomenal show and the importance of presence when performing. Frank shares some great ...

Episode 49

Shane Cobalt

Episode 49: Shane Cobalt sits down to talk magic history, crediting, audience management and appreciation and more. Elliott and Shane have been friends for several years, and they get deep into sev...

Episode 48

Demian Aditya

Episode 48: Demian Aditya, famous magician and illusionist from Indonesia, sits down with Elliott to chat about creativity, passion, international audiences, and more. Enjoy!Let us know what you t...

Episode 47

Marcie Hume

Episode 47: Marcie Hume, director of Magicians: Life in the Impossible, sits down to discuss magic and mentalism, art, goals, dreams, and fears, and much more. This is an incredible, personal episo...

Episode 46

Marcus Eddie

Episode 46: Marcus Eddie sits down with Elliott during his stay at the Magic Castle to chat about creativity, consulting, and living life positively. There's a lot of gold ranging over a variety of...

Episode 45

Adam Blumenthal

Episode 45: Elliott visits Adam Blumenthal and Ricky Smith at Tannen's Magic in NYC. The trio discuss Tannen's Magic's history, the magic camp, Adam's career in stage lighting, working with Ricky J...

Episode 44

Harrison Greenbaum

Episode 44: Harrison Greenbaum, a very funny comedian and magician in New York, chats with Elliott about stand-up and what magicians should learn from the culture of comedy. Harrison describes the ...

Episode 43

Steve Cohen

Episode 43: Elliott sits down with Steve Cohen after his final Chamber Magic show of the weekend to discuss magic, life, bespoke clothing, and the old masters. Steve shares some incredible stories ...

Episode 42

Doug McKenzie

Episode 42: Elliott sits down in New York with Doug McKenzie! Doug constantly pushes his magic forward, seeking to innovate in exciting ways, both for himself and as a consultant for film and telev...

Episode 41

Tony Chang

Episode 41: Elliott sits down in New York with one of the best sleight of hand technicians in the world and a dear friend, Tony Chang. Tony is a fascinating guy with strong opinions about magic tec...

Episode 40

Ryan Plunkett

Episode 40: Elliott sits down with his dear friend, Ryan Plunkett, a creative, funny performer from Chicago. In the aftermath of Ohio's Magi-Fest, Ryan and Elliott chat about creativity, the Chicag...

Episode 39

Garrett Thomas

Episode 39: Elliott sits down with magician and creator Garrett Thomas. Garrett discusses his artistic influences, as well as his thoughts on the lay public’s perception of magic. Garrett is one of...

Episode 38

Larry Fong*

Episode 38: Elliott chats with Larry Fong, blockbuster cinematographer and wonderful magician. The conversation moves back and forth between magic and movies, coffee and sushi, and there are even a...

Episode 37

Raahul Srinivasan

Episode 37: Elliott sits down with another longtime friend in magic, the last of the NorCal group, Raahul Srinivasan. They discuss performance theory, having a place to "be bad", women in magic, Ju...

Episode 36

Michael Feldman

Episode 36: Elliott sits down with one of his closest friends in magic, Michael Feldman! Michael is a lawyer in San Francisco, and his thoughts and insights into the art of magic are fascinating. T...

Episode 35

John Bodine

Episode 35: John Bodine shares his unique approach to magic with Elliott. After years of being highly dedicated to sleight of hand and a student of Erdnase, John now places his focus on sharing a t...

Episode 34

Joe Pon

Episode 34: Elliott sits down with Joe Pon, owner and operator of Misdirections Magic Shop in San Francisco, CA. Joe has been behind the counter for 20 years, and he's seen an awful lot of great ma...

Episode 33

Theron Schaub

Episode 33: Elliott sits down with one of his oldest magic friends and mentors, Theron Schaub! Theron founded the Golden Gate Gathering, one of Elliott's favorite conventions, and they discuss fash...

Episode 32

Alex Hansford

Episode 32: Elliott sits down with the wonderful young magician, Alex Hansford, a favorite artist on ArtofMagic.com, to talk philosophy, magic, misogyny, style, and travel. This highly conversation...

Episode 31

Simon Coronel

Episode 31: Simon Coronel (Fool Us, Winner of FISM’s most original close-up act in 2012) sits down with Elliott for an extended conversation involving many different aspects about magic. Simon has ...

Episode 30

Tom Frank

Episode 30: Elliott sits down with master street performer Tom Frank to have a lovely discussion about his life in magic. Even though Tom is a wonderful performer, he has remained an underground se...

Episode 29

Ryan Stock & AmberLynn Walker

Episode 29: Elliott sits down with his friends Ryan Stock and AmberLynn Walker, the Comedy Daredevil team to talk magic, comedy, performance, misogyny, AGT, and vomit (which Elliott did not have a ...

Episode 28

Mac King

Episode 28: Elliott sits down with Mac King, one of few universally praised comedy magicians. While he has been a well respected Vegas headliner for years, on this show, he tells stories from back ...

Episode 27

Jason England

Episode 27: Elliott heads over to Jason England’s house to discuss how Jason got interested in sleight of hand card magic, and how that evolved into his interests in cheating techniques, impromptu ...

Episode 26

Nick Diffatte

Episode 26: Nick Diffatte sits down with Elliott in Las Vegas, Nevada where Nick is currently performing at Hooters Casino-Hotel. This is one of Elliott's favorite episodes so far, as Nick has a st...

Episode 25

Paul Gertner

Episode 25: Paul Gertner, has a lifetime of stories to share in this shorter-than-usual episode. The conversation includes stories about meeting Dai Vernon and performing with Eddie Fechter, as wel...

Episode 24

Doc Eason

Episode 24: Elliott sits down for a conversation with legendary bar magician Doc Eason. Doc is known for his time as a bar magician at the Tower Comedy and Magic Bar, where he perfected and popular...

Episode 23

Jordan Gold

Episode 23: Elliott sits down with his dear friend, Jordan Gold. Jordan is a craft cocktail connoisseur, puzzle enthusiast, musician, and a phenomenal magician. Jordan is a great guest with hilario...

Episode 22

Jason Ladanye

Episode 22: Elliott sits down with card magician and author of Confident Deceptions, Jason Ladanye. They discuss everything from his childhood as a touring blues musician in high school to their sh...

Episode 21

Mike Pisciotta

Episode 21: Mike Pisciotta, the Academy of Magical Arts' Close-Up Magician of the Year and resident magician of the World Famous Magic Castle sits down with Elliott to discuss magic, philosophy, pe...

Episode 20

Homer Liwag

Episode 20: Homer Liwag takes some time out of his incredibly busy schedule making magic with and for David Copperfield to speak with Elliott about his life and his passions! Homer's attention to d...

Episode 19

Mike Elizalde

Episode 19: Mike Elizalde, President of Spectral Motion and magician of both stage and screen sits down with Elliott to discuss magic, artistic pursuits, life, the importance of a mentor and more! ...

Episode 18

Jeremy Griffith

Episode 18: Jeremy Griffith, an all around wonderful human being sits down with Elliott to discuss life, magic, literature, philosophy, and more! Elliott and Jeremy are close friends, so this one i...

Episode 17

Chad Long

Episode 17: Chad Long, genius card man and beloved friend, sits down to chat about magic, creativity, and life. Chad's quick wit and breadth of performing experience make this an especially insight...

Episode 16

Daniel Prado

Episode 16: Elliott sits down with Daniel Prado for an amazing discussion of life, magic, travel, music, and more. Daniel is a wonderful guy, and his depth of knowledge on such a wide range of subj...

Episode 15

Pipo Villanueva

Episode 15: Pipo Villanueva, a Spanish magician known for elegant sleight of hand and beautiful magic, spent some time with Elliott talking about magic, music, performance, magic theory, and more! ...

Episode 14

Will Houstoun

Episode 14: Dr. Will Houstoun sits down with Elliott to discuss magic and its beautiful history. Will has a doctorate in magical history, focusing on Professor Hoffmann and the enormous impact he m...

Episode 13

Justin Willman

Justin Willman joins Elliott to talk about magic, comedy, and life. Justin is a truly gifted performer with experience in many different facets of entertainment, and he's got some great wisdom and ...

Episode 12

Gary Plants

Elliott and his best friend David Yanik interview the wonderful Gary Plants at Magi-Fest 2016. Gary shares some great stories about Vernon, Marlo, and Steve Forte, discusses his newfound enjoyment ...

Episode 11

Jared Kopf

Episode 11: One of Elliott's dear friends, the Amazing Reverend Jared Kopf, Esq. sits down and chats about his mentor Bob White, the cult of Erdnase, the phenomenal innovator Dai Vernon, and much m...

Episode 10

Adam Rubin*

Episode 10: Elliott sits down with Adam Rubin, the New York Times Bestselling author, magician, improv comedian, puzzle master, and all around amazing guy. Several special guests appear within this...

Episode 9

Brett Loudermilk

Episode 9: Elliott sits down with a dear friend and consummate performer, Brett Loudermilk! This one is fun, funny, provocative, and thought provoking! Brett is a phenomenal thinker and a lovely gu...

Episode 8

Paul Wilson

Elliott spends some time with one of the most caring, thoughtful, and encouraging magicians, Paul Wilson! There's so much greatness in this episode, and it's certainly a touching one. The late, gre...

Episode 7

Ricky Smith

Elliott spends some time with one of his dearest friends and biggest heroes, Ricky Smith! He's one of the all time greatest humans in the world, and he shares some delightfully entertaining stories...

Episode 6

Gazzo

Elliott sits down with Gazzo, the world renowned busker and con game expert. He's probably performed for more people than anyone in the world, and you may have seen him on the boardwalks of Florida...

Episode 5

Blake Vogt

Elliott sits down with Blake Vogt! Enjoy this fun and funny talk about magic, creation, performing on television, and comedy and comedians. Have fun!Let us know what you think of this episode of Ma...

Episode 4

Rob Zabrecky

Elliott sits down with Rob Zabrecky, the 2015 Parlour Magician of the Year, for a laid back conversation covering magic, music, and life. Enjoy!Let us know what you think of this episode of Magical...

Episode 3

Piff the Magic Dragon

Elliott sits down with the always hilarious Piff and Piffles for a fun chat about magic, characters, performance, and comedy. Piff is currently touring the country and has a show at The Flamingo ca...

Episode 2

Helder

Our second episode! Helder gives some background on how he started, and how his father, an amateur magician, helped influence him to become a leading name across the world. Such a great episode! En...

Episode 1

Dave Buck

This is the first episode of Art of Magic's podcast: Magical Thinking with Elliott Terral. Dave Buck, cofounder of DanandDave.com, ArtofPlay.com, and ArtofMagic.com, sits down to discuss why magic ...